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We talk to Kingsmill Bond, energy strategist at Ember, sharing insights from his latest report, "The Electrotech Revolution". Discover how new energy technologies are transforming economies and geopolitics, with a special focus on Asia's rapid clean energy advancements. Tune in to explore the future of power systems, investment shifts, and what it means for a sustainable world.

REF: The Electrotech Revolution; Electricity Data Explorer; Ember.

ABOUT Kingsmill: Kingsmill Bond, CFA is an energy strategist for Ember. He has worked as a financial market analyst and strategist for over 30 years, including for Deutsche Bank and Citibank in London, Hong Kong and Moscow. He believes that the electrotech revolution is the most important driver of financial markets and geopolitics in the modern era. He joined Ember from RMI in 2025 to write analysis on the impact of the energy transition on financial markets, with a focus on the exponential growth of electrotech and the disruption to the fossil fuel sector.

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How do you scale green hydrogen from a laboratory curiosity to industrial reality? Alexander Tancock, CEO of Intercontinental Energy, reveals the breakthrough P2H2 Node system that’s turning massive renewable projects into factory-produced “Lego blocks.”

With numerous projects across three continents and backing from strong financial partners, Intercontinental Energy isn’t just making green hydrogen—they’re creating green iron to decarbonise steel production and building new trade corridors between Australia’s vast renewable resources and Asia’s industrial heartlands.

Alex shares why the hydrogen hype faded, how government partnerships became crucial, and why 2028 could mark the tipping-point for commercially viable green molecules at oil- and gas-scale.

REF: InterContinental Energy

ABOUT ALEX: Alexander Tancock is the CEO and Chairman of the Board of InterContinental Energy, a global leader in large-scale green hydrogen development who has been at the forefront of the industry for more than 10 years. Under his leadership, the company has pioneered a portfolio of groundbreaking projects, with its three flagship projects attracting partnerships from some of the largest names in energy. With backing from major institutional investors like GIC and Hy24, InterContinental Energy has established itself at the forefront of the green molecule sector. The company’s innovative team and approach extend beyond project development, and into giga scale enabling technology through its patented P2(H2)NodeTM architecture. Alex's expertise and strategic insights make him a significant voice in the energy sector.

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Joseph Jacobelli and Toby Chan unpack the dynamic landscape of climate tech investing in Asia. The discussion highlights current VC trends, financing gaps, and the transition from emerging tech to mainstream infrastructure, with case studies from maritime and aviation. Discover why Asia is gaining ground amid US policy shifts and how policy, capital, and supply chains are driving change in the region.

ABOUT TOBY: Toby is a co-founder of Audacy Ventures Limited, focused on catalysing and scaling decarbonisation technologies critical to the energy transition post his prior career in traditional energy and renewables. Audacy is an early growth stage investor and supports technologies related to energy efficiency, transportation and industrial decarbonisation, that are in early stages of commercialisation particularly in the APAC region.

Toby has 20 years of investments and advisory experience across energy, infrastructure, technology, real estate and natural resources. Toby advised on over US$15bn of transactions whilst at Macquarie Capital and was part of the founding team of Kerogen Capital, a specialist in international energy investments with over US$2 billion AUM.

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This episode dives deep into Australia's position as an emerging leader in the green hydrogen market, exploring both the immense potential and current challenges facing the industry. Nick Smith, a leading expert, shares insights from his unique perspective spanning corporate, government, and advisory roles, discussing major projects like the 1.8 million tonne Murchison Green Hydrogen Project in Western Australia and the infrastructure developments reshaping the sector. The conversation covers critical topics including cost reduction strategies, safety considerations, financing models, and the shift from export-focused to domestic market applications. With China controlling 80% of global green hydrogen installations and Australia navigating boom-bust cycles, this episode provides a pragmatic assessment of where the industry stands and realistic expectations for the next two decades.

ABOUT NICK. Nick is the Managing Director of Global Decarbonisation Advisory (GDA), bringing together people, projects and capital to accelerate decarbonisation across the energy, mineral processing and hard to abate industrial sectors. Nick is the current President of the International Association for Hydrogen Safety (HySafe), is a member of the International Hydrogen and Fuel Cell Association’s Technical Committee and is a member of the Clean Energy Transition Advisory Committee at the Australia Japan Business Co-operation Committee. Nick has extensive experience as an executive and non-executive director predominantly in Australia and is recognised for delivering world leadership in decarbonisation across the energy sector and mineral extraction and processing sector in Australia. Prior to commencing GDA, Nick held a range of senior executive and leadership roles across the government, gas, and construction materials sectors delivering strategy, policy and commercial advice along with full accountability for business performance and profitability.
Nick holds a Masters degree in Business Administration, is a graduate of the Australian Institute of Company Directors and a Fellow of the Australian Institute of Energy.

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Southeast Asia's energy transition faces a critical challenge: information fragmentation. With hundreds of projects, billions in investments, and countless stakeholders working across the region, coordination has been nearly impossible - until now. In this episode, we explore SIPET (Southeast Asia Information Platform for the Energy Transition), an open-source platform. Our guest, Maximilian Heil from GIZ, reveals how this innovative tool maps nearly 500 energy projects representing over $45 billion in investments across 10 ASEAN countries. We dive deep into the platform's three core tools - the knowledge hub, project mapping database, and power sector resources - and discover how they're breaking down silos between governments, donors, researchers, and private sector players. From just energy transition partnerships in Vietnam and Indonesia to community-level energy efficiency projects in Laos, SIPET is connecting the dots that were previously scattered across the region. This conversation goes beyond technology to explore the human element of energy transition: capacity building, knowledge sharing, and the collaborative networks that will ultimately determine Southeast Asia's path to carbon neutrality.

REF: Southeast Asia Information Platform for the Energy Transition, GIZ.

ABOUT MAX. Mr. Maximilian Heil is a Project Coordinator at the Deutsche Gesellschaft für Internationale Zusammenarbeit (GIZ) for the project “Clean, Affordable and Secure Energy for Southeast Asia” (CASE). Based in Bangkok, he leads coordination of regional initiatives such as the ASEAN Power Grid Advancement Programme (APG-AP) and the Southeast Asia Information Platform for the Energy Transition (SIPET). His work focuses on strengthening multilateral energy cooperation, promoting clean energy narratives, and enabling policy dialogue across Southeast Asia. Mr. Heil joined GIZ in 2018 as a liaison officer for Africa–EU Energy Partnership (AEEP) , supporting high-level engagement with the African Union and the European Commission. Before joining GIZ, he worked as a public affairs consultant on EU policy in the fields of energy, climate, and transport. His professional background combines expertise in international energy policy, strategic communication, and project management in multilateral environments. Maximilian Heil holds a bachelor and master ’s degree in  business economics and development studies with international academic experience in Denmark, Mexico, and Germany. 

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In this episode, Joseph converses with Srini Nagarajan, who heads Asia for British International Investment (BII). BII is the UK’s development finance institution. It is focused on investing in sustainable infrastructure and businesses in developing countries to promote economic growth and support the UK's development goals. Between 2022 and 2026, BII plans to allocate at least 30% of its total new commitments by value to climate finance. It already has investments in almost 1,500 businesses across 65 countries in emerging economies, with total assets exceeding $10.9 billion. The conversation covers the critical role of financial institutions in Asia's energy transition, actions governments can take to attract foreign investors, and the intersection of inclusion and climate change. Srini provides insights into BII's strategies, including investment in funds, direct equity investments, and the importance of blended finance. He also highlights successful examples from India and Southeast Asia. Enjoy the discussion and please do e-mail us to suggest topics for future episodes.

RESOURCES: About BII; Latest news from BII.

ABOUT SRINI: Srini Nagarajan is Managing Director and Head of Asia at British International Investment. Srini joined BII in 2013 to lead the Asia team under the organisation’s new investment strategy. He has the distinction of having been our first overseas employee and recently moved to Singapore to lead BIIs expansion into the Indo-Pacific region. He has been instrumental in building a high-quality portfolio in the region, which focuses across products and sectors. Under his leadership, BII has a strong presence on the ground and the team has made successful investments in the financial services, healthcare, logistics and renewable energy sectors – including the creation of BII subsidiary Ayana Renewable Power in India, a pioneer renewable energy developer. His role includes support in the origination, execution and management of the portfolio for delivering development goals and value. In addition, he is building BII’s presence in the South-East Asian markets with a focus on climate change. Srini started his career with Standard Chartered Bank, both in India and Southern Africa, before joining British International Investment in 1996. He has managed leasing companies in Africa and in India he managed legacy assets for value before moving into mainstream private equity investing for both British International Investment and Actis. He has a Masters degree in Economics and a post-graduate qualification in Business Administration from Warwick School of Business.

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Banle Group’s Venus Zhao discusses how CBL International is revolutionising the maritime industry through sustainable biofuels. Its B24 biofuel blend reduces GHG emissions by up to 25% compared to conventional marine fuels. With operations across 60+ global ports and recent ISCC certifications, CBL is positioned to capitalise on the projected 50% growth in the green marine fuel market despite current supply constraints. Venus outlines how tightening IMO regulations are accelerating industry-wide sustainability adoption and shares CBL's vision to lead the maritime sector's transition towards net-zero emissions through diversification into biofuels, LNG and methanol.
REF: CBL IR page.

ABOUT VENUS: Venus Hui Zhao is the Director of Investor Relations and Public Relations of Banle Group. She is primarily responsible for investor relations, public relations and capital markets of the Group. She has more than 15 years of experience in investor relations, public relations, capital markets and ESG. Prior to joining the Group, she was the General Manager of Hong Kong Office, General Manager of Capital Markets & Corporate Communications at a Hong Kong listed company and assumed different management roles in Hong Kong and US listed companies and Fortune 500 MNCs. Ms Zhao obtained her master degree of Strategic Public Relations in Communications and Journalism School in University of Southern California, and her MBA degree concentrated in Finance in The Hong Kong University of Science & Technology. She is a certified FCMA, CGMA holder from Chartered Institute of Management Accountants (CIMA), associate member of CPA Australia (ASA) , Certified ESG Analyst (CESGA®) from The European Federation of Financial Analysts Societies (EFFAS), Executive Committee member and fellow of Hong Kong Investor Relations Association (HKIRA), and full member of HKIoD (The Hong Kong Institute of Directors).

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In this episode of the Asia Climate Finance Podcast, Joseph and Mark Hutchinson from the Global Wind Energy Council (GWEC) discuss the latest developments in the offshore wind industry, especially in Asia. Mark highlights GWEC's role in promoting wind energy through government-industry collaboration and expanding office presence in key Asian markets such as China, India, Vietnam, and the Philippines. He details the progress and challenges in specific countries, including Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, and the Philippines, and underscores the importance of policy stability and technological innovation in driving growth. The conversation also touches on the impact of geopolitical shifts, the rise of digital solutions, and the necessity of achieving net-zero targets. Despite recent challenges, Mark expresses optimism about the industry's future.

REF: GWEC's Global Wind Report 2025

ABOUT MARK: Mark is a Director in GWEC's Asia team, and a proven leader in the Energy Transition. Mark spent 16 years leading both Wood Mackenzie's and IHS Markit's (now S&P Global) APAC regional Gas & Power and Energy Transition consulting teams. He has worked with companies, governments and other stakeholders to enable the move to a carbon free future including advising on billions of dollars of renewable energy sector acquisitions, financings, IPOs and other types of capital raising. At GWEC Mark focuses on helping industry and governments transition to better enable the success of the wind industry, helping to meet various net zero carbon, energy security and other policy goals.

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In this special audio blog, host Joseph Jacobelli dives into the seismic shifts in US clean energy policy under the new administration. Discover how these changes are introducing uncertainty, leading to project cancellations, and potentially redirecting investments to Europe and Asia. With global clean energy markets expanding rapidly, could this shakeup fuel growth elsewhere? Join us as we explore the implications and opportunities arising from this pivotal moment in the energy transition.

ABOUT JOSEPH: Giuseppe ‘Joseph’ Jacobelli is an Asia finance and energy industry veteran. He is the Managing Partner of Bougie Impact Capital Ltd , a dedicated single-family office. Prior to B.I.C., he spent over 26 years in equity analysis with leading global investment banks covering China and other Asian energy stocks as well as five years as senior executive at a large utility and at a clean energy start-up. His book on energy transition, “Asia’s Energy Revolution: China’s Role and New Opportunities as Markets Transform and Digitalise”, was published in 2021.

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Asia is at the heart of the global energy transition, presenting a once-in-a-generation investment opportunity. In this episode, Luke Edwards of Brookfield discusses the crucial role of private capital in funding clean energy solutions, the challenges and opportunities in emerging markets, and how investors can navigate this evolving landscape. From large-scale renewables to business transformation strategies, discover what’s driving the shift to a low-carbon future — and why now is the time to act.

RESOURCES:

• Brookfield Launches Emerging Markets Transition Fund with Anchor Commitment from ALTÉRRA Alongside Investment in the Brookfield Global Transition Fund; Both Funds to Help Deploy Over $20 Billion in Climate Initiatives
• Brookfield Announces $10 Billion First Closing for Second Brookfield Global Transition Fund

ABOUT LUKE: Luke Edwards is Head of Australia and New Zealand for Brookfield’s Renewable Power & Transition Group. He is also Head of Japan for Brookfield. In these roles, Mr. Edwards is responsible for the growth and management of renewable power and transition investments in Australia and New Zealand, as well as Brookfield’s overall growth in Japan. Mr. Edwards has previously served in Brookfield’s Infrastructure business, where he focused on investment origination, analysis and execution. Prior to joining Brookfield in 2021, Mr. Edwards held various roles across engineering, commercial and investments sectors, including a director position at Citi. He has also held roles at Goldman Sachs in its power, utilities and infrastructure investment banking teams and has experience as a field engineer for Schlumberger in Brazil and Alaska. Mr. Edwards holds Bachelor of Engineering (Civil) and Bachelor of Commerce degrees from the University of Sydney.

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In this 60th episode of our podcast we talk with Tim Bush, an analyst at UBS and a top expert in batteries and energy, about the fast-changing world of battery production. Tim provides a clear view of the global battery industry's complex challenges and opportunities. Tim‘s insights include China leading the way with lower costs and big capacity, and the US and Europe facing tough choices as they try to build their own battery supply chains while dealing with China's dominance. Tim highlights the game-changing potential of solid-state batteries, which promise safer and more efficient power. The conversation also covers the struggles of European carmakers as they shift to electric vehicles and the rapid improvements in Chinese EV technology. This conversation gives a clear view of the global battery industry's challenges and opportunities.

ABOUT TIM: Tim Bush is based in Seoul and heads UBS Global Battery Research. He is also responsible for Korea EV supply chain corporate coverage. He has almost 20 years of experience covering Alternative Energy. He joined UBS from BAML in 2015. Notable research includes UBS Battery Teardown series. UBS has analyzed nickel and iron batteries from all incumbents in this signature bi-annual report. Tim holds degrees from Cornell University / NYU Stern and is fluent in Mandarin Chinese.

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Korn Ferry's Seth Peterson reveals how AI and in-house recruitment are revolutionizing executive search in Asia's energy transition sector. Despite the current market slowdown in China, demand for ESG and sustainability talent in Asia Pacific is quite strong. Corporate culture and purpose emerge as key differentiators in attracting top executives. Seth forecasts AI expertise and data science becoming critical skills, while emphasizing that traditional career-building remains fundamental. His insights highlight the dual challenge companies face: embracing technological innovation while maintaining strong organizational values to secure future talent.

ABOUTH SETH: Seth brings more than 25 years of corporate and consulting experience. He leads teams to bring Korn Ferry’s Solutions to clients across the Asia Pacific region. He also executes Executive Searches at the Board, C-Suite and Functional leadership levels across key Industry sectors, working for both Private Equity portfolio businesses and regional conglomerates as well as western multinationals. Seth is fluent in Mandarin Chinese and has been based in Greater China for the majority of his thirty-year career. Prior to joining Korn Ferry in 2018 he spent over seven years as a Partner at Heidrick & Struggles in Hong Kong. In his earlier career he worked in strategic planning, business development, and general management with multinational businesses in the region. He was Vice President, General Manager, in charge of Asia Operations for a Business Unit of Hong Kong-listed Techtronic Industries; and earlier worked for Emerson Electric for several years, where he held several Business Development and P&L responsibilities for various businesses across Asia Pacific and served as a corporate planner at the U.S. headquarters for two years. He began his career in Hong Kong and Shanghai in the early 1990s as a Management Consultant where he was involved in the development of China market strategies for a number of leading corporations. Seth earned an MBA from Washington University’s Olin School of Business in St. Louis and a bachelor’s degree in Chinese Studies and International Relations from Grinnell College. He previously chaired the board of AFS Intercultural Programs, Hong Kong, and served on the board and Executive Committee of the American Chamber of Commerce in Hong Kong. 

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This episode features Giorgio Fortunato who leads Clean Energy and Power at Google in Asia Pacific. He outlines Google's dedication to clean energy, including its ambitious 24/7 carbon-free energy target by 2030. Giorgio explores the Asia Pacific region's unique challenges and opportunities, such as grid infrastructure development, diverse clean energy procurement strategies, and the crucial role of data transparency. He also shares specific examples of Google's successful clean energy projects across Australia, India, Japan, and Singapore, emphasizing the need for customized solutions to effectively address the diverse needs of each market.
RESOURCES:
1. 24/7 Carbon-Free Energy Procurement in APAC: Pathways for Companies and Countries (BloombergNEF and the Global Renewables Alliance)
2. The Role of High-Impact Utility Green Tariffs (ACEC and CEBA)
3. New paths for clean energy in Asia-Pacific (G Fortunato)

ABOUT GIORGIO. Giorgio leads Clean Energy and Power at Google in Asia Pacific. He is responsible for securing Google's data centre and operational energy needs in the region, while driving Google's efforts to achieve 24/7 carbon-free energy and net-zero emissions across Google’s operations and value chain. His experience in the energy sector includes leading Schneider Electric's Cleantech advisory in APAC, co-founding the offshore wind startup Blue Aspirations, and holding leadership positions at Vestas Wind Systems. He also served as the National Energy Chair at the European Chamber of Commerce in China. Giorgio holds a master’s in aerospace engineering from La Sapienza University of Rome and a dual-degree EMBA from Tsinghua University and INSEAD.

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In Episode 57, leading Asia energy economist Mike Thomas of The Lantau Group shared insights on 2024 trends and the 2025 outlook. He highlighted improved investment fundamentals, growing demand for renewables, and significant market reforms in Malaysia and the Philippines. Looking ahead, Mike expects continued renewable growth despite geopolitical uncertainties, more solar-hybrid projects, and evolving challenges in gas flexibility. Mike also thinks that while nuclear power's future remains uncertain in Southeast Asia, small modular reactors show long-term promise.

REFERENCES: TLG Insights

ABOUT MIKE: Mike Thomas is the Managing Director and a founding partner at The Lantau Group with over 30 years of consulting experience, focussing on the energy sector.  He advises a wide range of energy sector stakeholders on strategic, regulatory, and competition matters; sustainability; market design and development; and commercial transactions.  Prior to co-founding in 2010, he headed the Asia Pacific Energy & Environment practice of a global consulting firm.  Mike has an MPP from Harvard Kennedy School, United States and a BA in Economics from Carleton College, United States. More specifically, within the Asia Pacific region, he has led many significant engagements involving the robust application of economics and analytics to a wide variety of business, policy, and regulatory challenges affecting the electricity and gas sectors.  He works extensively with multinationals on sustainability strategies, focussing on the best options in different markets, and on the regulatory and policy changes needed to support increasing renewable energy contracting options.  He has testified or advised as an industry economic expert in commercial contract disputes before courts or arbitral panels in Malaysia, Singapore, Hong Kong, New Zealand, and Australia, and on disputed regulatory matters before regulatory authorities in New Zealand, Australia, and the Philippines.  His experience in commercial matters includes market forecasts and revenue simulations for numerous renewable energy and conventional energy projects and market assessments in South Asia, North Asia, ASEAN, and Australia/New Zealand.

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In this episode, we delve into the world of climate business, climate finance, and the energy transition in the Asia Pacific region, as seen through the lens of a major investor. Our guest is Gavin Adda, CEO of Peak Energy Development, a Singapore-based company backed by the $70 billion global infrastructure investor, Stonepeak Infrastructure Partners. We begin by exploring the critical role of power market deregulation in accelerating the energy transition. We delve into specific challenges and opportunities within this space. Additionally, we discuss the markets that Gavin is most optimistic about and examine emerging trends in the industry. We also briefly touch on a couple of case studies that highlight innovative approaches to sustainable energy solutions. Finally, Gavin shares his long-term vision for energy transition projects and related investments in the Asia Pacific region.

ABOUT GAVIN: Gavin Adda is the CEO of Peak Energy Development Pte Ltd with responsibility for renewable energy across Asia Pacific. Peak Energy is the renewable energy developer for Stonepeak Infrastructure Partners in Asia with a focus on solar, onshore wind and battery infrastructure and includes some of the largest projects in Korea and Japan. Previously, he was CEO of TotalEnergies Renewables Utility Scale (Asia) and Distributed Generation (Asia) which was formed when he sold his start-up to TotalEnergies. It subsequently became the largest B2B-focused renewable player in the region before being merged with ENEOS to form a USD 2 Bn joint venture. Based out of Singapore, Gavin is also a Board Director of Maxeon Solar Technologies (NASDAQ:MAXN),a Board Director of Lindström Group and Co-Chair of the Sustainability Committee at the European Chamber of Commerce. Prior to TotalEnergies, Gavin founded several start-ups in the renewable sector. This includes CleantechSolar one of the largest developers in India, now partly owned by Shell and Keppel. At REC Solar, one of the largest, non-Chinese solar panel manufacturers, he ran several departments and launched a corporate turn-around, re-focusing the company on the DG sector. He sold the company to ChemChina for USD 640m (the largest solar M&A deal in ’15). Previously, he had various management roles in Samsung Group. This included developing, constructing and financing a USD 1 Bn portfolio of utility-scale solar projects and launching a JV with one of the largest, independent solar developers in the US. Gavin has an MBA from INSEAD and a Master’s Degree from Cambridge University.

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In this episode, we dive into the fascinating world of eco-friendly mining technology with Don Weatherbee, CEO of Regenx Tech, a company specializing in recycling precious metals from catalytic converters. Don shares the company's unique hydro metallurgic process, which is more environmentally sound than traditional mining and smelting. We discuss the market for platinum and palladium, the potential for growth, and the challenges in the recycling industry. Don also reveals Regenx Tech's journey from a junior mining company to a pioneer in catalytic converter recycling, with a focus on the underserved diesel market. We also discuss its fund raising approach. Join us as we explore the intersection of mining, recycling, and clean technology.

ABOUT DON: Don Weatherbee is the Chief Executive Officer of Regenx Tech Corp., a provider of a new clean-tech solution for the recovery of precious metals from end of life materials.  He is an accomplished Senior Executive with extensive experience in leading complex operations with over 28 years in the mining and material processing sectors including 20 years at the executive level. He holds Bachelor of Commerce from the University of Alberta, a CPA, CMA from the Chartered Professional Accountants of Alberta, and a Certified Information Technology Professional (CITP) designation from the American Institute of Certified Public Accountants. Don has worked for both privately held and publicly listed companies throughout his career.

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In this episode we dive into Taiwan's offshore wind story with Scott Hsu. A veteran in Asia's wind power sector, Scott shares unique insights from Taiwan's remarkable journey to become an offshore wind powerhouse. From market dynamics to financing challenges, we explore how Taiwan is balancing ambitious renewable targets with local industry development.

ABOUT SCOTT: Scott Hsu is the Country Director for Taiwan and the Philippines at K2 Management. Within this role, he advises clients on the development, construction, and management of offshore and onshore wind projects in Taiwan and the Philippines. Prior to this, he was a Site Manager at Vestas, a consultant at 8.2 Consulting AG, a Project Manager at Swancor and a Field Service Manager at GE Renewable Energy. He has a PhD in Electrical and Electronics Engineering from National Central University and a BA in Aerospace Engineering from Tamkang University.

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This episode is the second part of the conversation with a truly exceptional guest: one of Asia’s pre-eminent thinkers on the environment and climate change, Professor Christine Loh. We explore climate policy and climate action in the Chinese Mainland and Hong Kong, examining the issues from a policy perspective. Given China's crucial role in global climate action, we began by discussing the nation's policies related to the environment, climate change, and energy.

ABOUT CHRISTINE: Professor Christine Loh, SBS, JP, OBE, Chevalier de l’Ordre National du Mérite, is Chief Development Strategist at The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology. She was Under Secretary for the Environment in the HKSAR Government (2012-17), Special Consultant to the Chief Executive on the mainland’s ecological civilisation policy (2019-2020), and a Member of the Hong Kong Legislative Council (1992-97 and 1998-2000). Loh has been active in public policy and politics since the 1980s. She founded and was the CEO of the non-profit think tank, Civic Exchange (2000-12), and helped to establish several non-profit organizations in Hong Kong related to the environment, equal opportunity, arts and culture, as well as human rights. Professor Loh is currently a board member of CDP Worldwide, Global Maritime Forum, New Forests Pty Ltd, Towngas Smart Energy Company Limited, and is Asia Society’s Scholar in Residence (2023-2024). She taught a course at Anderson School of Management, University of California at Los Angeles on nonmarket risks for five years (2018-22). She is a published author of many academic and popular works. Loh is a lawyer by training, and a commodities trader by profession. She received her legal training in England and received honorary degrees of Doctor of Law from the University of Hull and Doctor of Science from the University of Exeter.

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This episode features a truly exceptional guest: one of Asia’s pre-eminent thinkers on the environment and climate change, Professor Christine Loh. We explore the crucial topic of climate business and finance education and capacity building. We started the conversation with Professor Loh on what exactly is the Institute for the Environment at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology. And as you'll discover, the Institute's work goes far beyond that of a traditional think tank. It is the first of a two part discussion with Prof Loh.

ABOUT CHRISTINE: Professor Christine Loh, SBS, JP, OBE, Chevalier de l’Ordre National du Mérite, is Chief Development Strategist at The Hong Kong University of Science and Technology. She was Under Secretary for the Environment in the HKSAR Government (2012-17), Special Consultant to the Chief Executive on the mainland’s ecological civilisation policy (2019-2020), and a Member of the Hong Kong Legislative Council (1992-97 and 1998-2000). Loh has been active in public policy and politics since the 1980s. She founded and was the CEO of the non-profit think tank, Civic Exchange (2000-12), and helped to establish several non-profit organizations in Hong Kong related to the environment, equal opportunity, arts and culture, as well as human rights. Professor Loh is currently a board member of CDP Worldwide, Global Maritime Forum, New Forests Pty Ltd, Towngas Smart Energy Company Limited, and is Asia Society’s Scholar in Residence (2023-2024). She taught a course at Anderson School of Management, University of California at Los Angeles on nonmarket risks for five years (2018-22). She is a published author of many academic and popular works. Loh is a lawyer by training, and a commodities trader by profession. She received her legal training in England and received honorary degrees of Doctor of Law from the University of Hull and Doctor of Science from the University of Exeter.

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Climate risk modelling plays a vital role in shaping informed decisions, managing risks, and driving strategic planning by empowering businesses, governments, and individuals to understand and quantify the impacts of climate change. It enables organizations to pinpoint and evaluate climate-related risks, meet regulatory requirements, safeguard financial stability, and fortify resilience. Furthermore, it underpins accurate insurance pricing and investment evaluations, while guiding public policy and resource allocation. In this episode, we are joined by renowned expert Martim Rocha. Together, we explore the high-level aspects of climate risk modelling and delve into the key areas of climate risk it addresses, including physical and transition risks. Martim shares his insights on data analytics, emphasizing the critical issue of data quality. He also examines the transformative role AI is playing in modelling and provides a compelling long-term outlook.

ABOUT MARTIM: Martim Rocha is the Global Head of the Risk Banking Solutions, as such he manages a team of global experts on banking risk management, defining roadmaps and priorities for SAS solutions and supporting customers on their journey to take the best of the SAS solutions, defining the best approach for each business case, and taking the to be live system. Martim has published several papers and has spoken at several conferences around the world on the topics of Risk Management in Banking, Risk and Finance Integration, IFRS9/CECL, Regulatory Risk Management, Balance Sheet Management, Capital Planning, Scenario Based Analysis and Stress-testing and more recently on Climate Risk on Financial Services.  With SAS for more than 20 years, he played leading roles on projects such as Stress-testing on a G-Sib based in London; IFRS9 and Stress-testing at G-SIB bank covering more than 60 locations worldwide; a couple of Top 5 Nordic Bank, at Top banks in UAE; and others. In addition, he was a lecturer for courses on advanced decision support systems, data warehousing and data mining at the Autonomous University of Lisbon and at the ISCTE Business School. Before joining SAS, Martim worked for the financial services industry implementing MIS, EIS, Financial Planning and Budgeting and Balanced Scorecard systems. After he was a partner on the Business Analytics focused consulting firm, Noscitare where he led the delivery of many IT projects again in financial services companies. Martim has a post-graduate degree in Business Administration from Nova SBE and has an undergraduate degree in Computer Science from ISIG. 

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In this episode we analyse national and corporate transition trends in Asia. We have invited a distinguished guest to discuss this topic: Prof. Dr. Sayuri Shirai. Dr. Shirai is an Advisor for Sustainable Policies at the Asian Development Bank Institute. She is also a professor of economics at Keio University. We discuss areas such as adaptation and mitigation in Asia. We also cover the phase-down or phase-out of coal-fired power plants. Additionally, we explore corporate climate disclosure and transition planning.

ABOUT DR SAYURI SHIRAI. Sayuri Shirai has been the Asian Development Bank Institute's Advisor for Sustainable Policies since 2022. She is also currently a professor of economics under Keio University’s faculty of policy management since 2016. From 2020-2021, she was a senior advisor to London-based EOS at Federated Hermes, which provides environmental, social, and governance (ESG)-related stewardship services on firms and public policy. She was a full-time member of the Policy Board of the Bank of Japan from 2011-2016, participating in making decisions on monetary policy and other central banking matters. She also taught at Sciences Po in Paris from 2007–2008 and served previously as an economist at the International Monetary Fund. She has published extensively on topics such as central bank digital currency, monetary policy, global finance, and ESG investment. She is also a contributing writer to the Japan Times and a frequent Japanese and international media commentator on Japan’s economy and global monetary policies. She holds a PhD in economics from Columbia University. 

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Episode 49 is about the related topics of electric vehicles, key minerals, and China. Our guest is Henry Sanderson. Henry is currently the executive editor of Benchmark Mineral Intelligence, a provider of supply chain and energy transition intelligence. This includes lithium, nickel, cobalt, electric vehicles, and the like. Henry and I first discuss his interest in EVs and the related minerals. Then we talk about his book Volt Rush, about EVs, about some of the key minerals, and finally on his thoughts about market developments over the next 25 years.
Useful Resources:
Volt Rush: The Winners and Losers in the Race to Go Green
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ABOUT HENRY: Henry Sanderson is an author and journalist focusing on clean energy. He authored Volt Rush, the Winners and Losers in the Race to Go Green, which was chosen as a book of the week by the Observer, and one of the best science and environment books of 2022 by The Times. He also previously co-authored a book, China's Superbank: Debt, Oil and Influence - How China Development Bank is Rewriting the Rules of Finance. He is former journalist for the Financial Times and Bloomberg, he is currently the executive editor of Benchmark Mineral Intelligence, the leading provider of data and analysis on the battery supply chain.

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This is a special episode. It is an abridged version of a webinar held in May 2024 on climate finance. There are three short presentations followed by a short Q&A session. You will hear the views from Dr Tim Cadman from the University of Southern Queensland, from Dr Tapan Sarker, from the same university, and from Joseph Jacobelli. Dr Cadman discusses some positive trends about action toward protecting the environment with some emphasis on biodiversity conservation. Dr Sarker focuses on the financing of the UN SDGs and developing countries’ access to finance being facilitated through enhanced project implementation and climate finance. Joseph focuses on the entities who will most benefit from opportunities opened up by the energy transition, namely corporations. Thank you to the publisher De Gruyter who kindly organised the seminar and also to Lervinia Swee from De Gruyter who facilitated the discussion.

YouTube: The Economic Cost of Climate Change to APAC in 2024 and beyond hosted by De Gruyter.

De Gruyter Handbook of Sustainable Development and Finance by Timothy Cadman and Tapan Sarker

Asia’s Energy Revolution: China’s Role and New Opportunities as Markets Transform and Digitalise by Joseph Jacobelli

ABOUT THE SPEAKERS:
Dr Timothy Cadman. Adjunct Research Fellow, University of Southern Queensland. Timothy specialises in governance of sustainable development, environmental politics and policy, climate change and natural resource management, including forestry, responsible investment and institutional performance. He works with communities and governments across Asia-Pacific to develop governance standards for international projects and programmes.
Dr Tapan Sarker. Professor of Finance, University of Southern Queensland. Tapan's research expertise lies in the domain of business strategy for sustainability, carbon finance and the political economy of sustainable development, with a particular focus on developing economies. Before entering academia, Tapan worked with the Ministry of Finance and the Ministry of Environment and Forests in Bangladesh and later as a World Bank scholar in Tokyo, Japan.
Giuseppe (Joseph) Jacobelli. Managing Partner, Bougie Impact Capital. Joseph is a climate business and finance expert with over three decades of experience in investment banking, clean energy companies, and research. Currently, he manages two firms, including Bougie Impact Capital, a Single Family Office investing in public markets and real estate. A strong advocate for decarbonisation awareness, Joseph authored a book on Asia's energy transition and hosts a podcast on the topic.

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In this episode, we focus on a crucial part of climate-related business and finance: the creation of renewable energy projects. This is a significant step towards a cleaner energy future. Our expert guest, Steve Shi, is a seasoned professional in renewable energy project transactions, with experience in North America and Southeast Asia. He will enlighten us on the necessary steps to develop clean energy projects and share his insights on key Asian electricity markets, including the Philippines, Vietnam, and Bangladesh.

ABOUT STEVE. Difu (Steve) Shi is the Overseas Transaction Manager for Sungrow Renewables. He is based in Southeast Asia and coordinates renewable energy investments and transactions in the ASEAN market for Sungrow Renewables, the development arm of Sungrow. Prior to joining Sungrow Renewables, he was the leading analyst for a publicly listed IPP based in Toronto, Canada, covering the North American market. He also held positions at KPMG and EY in Beijing. Steve holds an MBA from the University of Toronto, is a Certified Public Accountant (CPA) in Hong Kong and Ontario, and also holds Chartered Financial Analyst (CFA) designations. He volunteered for over eight years at the Toronto Wildlife Center, transporting dozens of injured red-tailed hawks and owls to the rehabilitation facility.

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The phase-out of coal-fired power plants in Asia Pacific presents a significant challenge, requiring a delicate balance between environmental sustainability and economic feasibility. In this discussion, we are joined by Dr Christoph Nedopil Wang of the Griffith Asia Institute, who delves into case studies from Pakistan and Vietnam, offering valuable insights applicable to other Asian electricity markets. Notably, the conversation will explore innovative financial mechanisms that could facilitate the early retirement of coal plants while mitigating potential financial burdens.

Resources: China coal exit: Opportunities for China-led financing of early phase down of coal-fired power plants in Pakistan and Vietnam.

ABOUT CHRISTOPH. Professor Christoph Nedopil is the Director of the Griffith Asia Institute at Griffith University in Brisbane, Australia. He is also a Visiting Professor at FISF Fudan University, Shanghai, Acting Director of the Green Finance & Development Center at FISF Fudan University, and a Visiting Faculty at Singapore Management University (SMU). Christoph regularly provides advisory to governments, financial institutions, enterprises, and civil society on sustainable development issues. He is the lead author of the UNDP SDG Finance Taxonomy, the Innovative Climate Finance Solutions report for the G20 in Indonesia, and the Green Development Guidance of the BRI Green Development Coalition under the Chinese Ministry of Ecology and Environment. He has authored four books and published articles in Science and other leading journals. Christoph serves as board director in scaling sustainability in businesses and finance. Christoph is quoted regularly in Financial Times, The Economist, Reuters, Bloomberg, and other major outlets. Before joining Griffith University, he served as Founding Director of the Green Finance & Development Center and Associate Professor at the Fanhai International School of Finance (FISF), Fudan University and previously as Founding Director for the Green BRI Center at the Central University of Economics in Beijing. He worked with the World Bank in over 15 countries and was a Director in the German development agency GIZ. Christoph holds a Master of Engineering and a PhD in Economics from the Technical University Berlin, as well as a Master of Public Administration from Harvard Kennedy School.

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